They are looking at a limit of 12 pitchers, not Right now teams with less solid staffs may use 14 pitchers, others use 13 on their 26 man roster and that works for them, especially with the AAA shuttle approach. The Sox are in the former camp. But let me clue you in — very few or no teams now have 9 guys hitting.
And the Sox have Arroyo as a ready replacement for Gonzalez. They could go to a 13 man bench and have Chavis as an additional pinch hitter. But they feel they more need the pitching depth. Few pitchers are that good. Times and the game have changed. Of course they can. I wish the league would examine bats today.
The number of cracked bats each year seems to have declined and I wonder if a composition change has contributed to velocity and HR distance rates along with the mph rate and players simply being stronger today.
Correct, as of today teams can use whatever number of pitchers they prefer. However it is widely believed that having a deeper bench and changing the way the bullpen is managed would give teams a better advantage in the long run.
Exactly, but part of this equation is the money. The cost for the defensive bench guys and most bullpens guys is minimal compared to the starting rosters. Looie I have the answer on the cracked bats. Strobes bats with stronger athletes means longer hits regardless of the speed or spin rate, assuming solid contact is made.
Teams should go back to slanted grain maple in my view. This is an abuse of power by MLB. How a team divides that number between position players and pitchers needs to be their decision based on how they feel they can field the most competitive team based on their player pool. Do you need to dictate the lineups and pitching chamges, too? Will the next rule be that all shortstops have to bat lead off, or that all starters must throw pitches? And how do 2-way players fit in this new roster rule?
Every team combined comprises the entity known as MLB. If something teams are doing has a negative or damaging impact on the brand, and in this case on the health of pitchers, MLB has the right to make changes. Teams are not independently run franchises, they are all governed by the MLB umbrella. Starscream, there is no MLB abuse when the rules are the same for all teams. They increased the roster size recently and the idea is to shorten in hours not innings the game. Teams looking for the edge turned to power pitching which now necessitates too many pitching changes.
By limiting the number of pitchers is basically bringing the game back to the way it used to be. Such is not needed today. Bwhat is though is to teach batters the art of hitting.
Ok this is just nuts. This would be good for the game? But 9 of those 16 are in the NL where you;d think the extra bench guy might be more useful for pinch hittling needs. Lets face it — the 26th guy on the team becomes a team decision on the marginal utility of that added player.
Make pitchers learn how to pitch. Stamina is part of the equation. Once the arm is developed for longer and more outings, injuries will lessen. I remember when Ray Culp developed a shoulder injury. While it was significant, it was not the norm back then. Today the attitude is play and pray.
Use them until you lose them. Chris Sale was perfectly healthy in until he overthrew in the All-Star Game, getting clocked at The rest of that season he began dealing with injuries that eventually led to TJ surgery prior to the season. So that begs the question…what would be the appropriate time and arena to talk about foreign substance abuse by pitchers, Mr.
Cardinals Manager? The league needs to go after the most blatant offenders on the big market teams. Both Cole and Bauer need to be fully investigated, along with everyone who pitched for Houston in the last 5 years.
Any pitcher that has increased thier spin rate substantially needs to be investigated. I would counter that agreement about the Astros pitchers. They actively pursued guys with high spin rates from other teams in the minors or who they felt could improve; McCullers,Cole. Chazz79 I am going to assume you have never looked at the statistics.
I am only going to look at Cole because you all could look at these stats on Savant. How about having the 3rd base or 1st base umpire check the cap and glove of EVERY pitcher leaving the mound? The umpire had no way of knowing that. Oh it gets a LOT more sophisticated than that. Pitchers these days have consulting chemists.
Okay then when is that? Is there another arena outside of an actual game? What a weird state baseball is in. You forgot the weird 3 of trying to institute a universal DH.
AL games have always taken much longer to play than NL games and yet baseball seems to want the NL to adopt the AL ways instead of vice versa when they are trying to increase the pace of play. Just play. I understand your point, but the AL will never get rid of the DH. It gives mid-to-lates guys who can no longer play defense a way to extend their careers, and the average fan would rather see great hitting than great pitching. First of all, games between two AL teams take on average only 2 minutes longer than games between NL teams according to fivethirtyeight.
If MLB can somehow get more balls in play, games will be shorter no matter how high the scores are. The driver of longer games is the endless parade of counts and pitching changes.
I feel like all would be better if the pitcher received ball and threw the ball. A lot of time spent waving off catchers, batters calling for time , pitchers stepping off the mound… just get on with it. Pitch clock and limited batter time would go a long way. Then you have a sport that used to resemble baseball. The game already barely resembles baseball. Name a golden era HOFer who thought there should be 30 seconds between each pitch? Teams can still make roster moves to get fresh pitchers.
The point is that it actually speeds up the game by cutting down the number of pitching changes managers are willing to make each game. Anyway, teams can get by perfectly fine with 13 pitchers. Even just a decade ago, 12 pitchers was the norm, and that was with them sometimes getting pulled after just 1 or 2 batters. Why would you assume that reducing the number of pitchers on the roster would increase offense?
And reducing the number of mid-inning pitching changes can only speed up the game, not slow it down. Not only that, but tired pitchers equal more injuries. Just wait till a good pitcher gets hurt because nobody else was avail…The coach is going to go ballistic in the media and for good reason.
Preservation of these arms does not get taken lightly by ballclubs these days, its almost a Science albeit not fully understood quite yet. Or just maybe guys could eschew max effort on every single pitch, pace themselves like they did the first years of professional baseball, work on location and movement, and pitch more offspeed in order to miss a few bats.
Just as hitters could learn to bunt and hit the other way instead of swinging from the ass at every single pitch. Baseball has never had more athleticism. Or less skill involved. Off speed pitches are the least likely to be put in play lease likely to be swung at, least likely to create contact, least like to be hit fair. Both scenarios result in the same number of innings pitched, but obviously pitching in 4 games over 5 days takes the greater toll on the body.
Now everybody knows that max effort leads to better results. And you base that on what? The game has become unbearably boring and more changes are needed such as reducing the number of balls to 3 for a walk and number of innings. Walks are the worst though. No hitters left and right, defensive masterpieces, incredible hitting: the game is the highest quality if EVER has been. Yes, the games take hours, so if one is not prepared to spend that much time, they should choose a different sport or a different hobby.
I remember when Rusty Staub used to be happy if a pitcher threw the ball harder. Less work for him to get the same result. But I guess you have to be a hitter who looks to go up the middle eliminates shifts and not try to pull home runs with big swings. That up the middle thing led to Rusty hitting into 4 double plays in one game and a great post game quote. Hit the ball up the middle! Hitters hitting up the middle is precisely WHY teams shift. Back in the pre-shift era, a ground ball up the middle that got past the pitcher was a sure hit, unless an infielder made a spectacular play, and very common.
I instinctively still have a positive feeling when a hitter on my team hits a ball up the middle. In , there were 35 TJ surgeries. Might hit So perhaps building up endurance instead of reducing it is the real solution? Does this mean they are going to cut the number of innings for a regular game to 7 now?
And the number of innings for a double header to 5? God forbid these guys learn how to pitch instead of just going up there and throwing as hard as they can without having a clue where it is going for 15 pitches a night. I love the idea of having starting pitchers going deeper into games.
And what is really sad is that years ago, just going 6 innings was considered a failed start. Back end starters were the ones going innings while top of the rotation guys were expected to go at least 8. People are always touting how much better nutrition is and how much better shape players are in and how much more athletic they are, but for some reason they can play nearly as much as a generation or two before.
It may have had a negative impact on innings pitched. For me a quality start is eight innings minimum. How can people simultaneously complain that offense is at all time lows, and that pitchers need to learn how to pitch?
Seems like the pitchers are doing something right. First off, I am not complaining about both, I am complaining about one. Other people are complaining about offense at an all time low. Different people can complain about opposite things in any subject. Secondly, the pitchers are not doing anything right. The thing is that if the pitchers have no clue where the ball is going, then neither do the batters. It just make them guys that throw hard. Thirdly, batters have been taught that striking out is not that bad a thing anymore, so they just swing and hope for the best.
Batters have no idea how to hit and the shift is proving that. Time and time again you see an entire side of the infield empty where a push bunt could probably become a double. Instead, batters insist on trying to pull a home run every time to get on Sportscenter.
Not true. The goal is creating runs. Sure, less strikeouts is better than more, but if a guy is striking out, but is still creating runs due to a high OBP, and ISO, then the Ks are forgivable. A hitter has no future in MLB if he just swings and hopes for the best, strikes out, without much run creation. You can make stats agree with just about any argument you make.
I love stats, they are a big part of why I enjoy baseball so much, but they can be manipulated to support whatever you want them to support. I just hope the current generation is ready in twenty years when the next generation looks at the way they did things as stupid and archaic.
No, yours is the opinion. The current thinking regarding strike outs is backed up by stats. That realization is a fact, not an opinion. Strikeouts are not a big hindrance to creating runs if the hitter is doing other positive things. A lot to ask for. Saying that stats can be manipulated to say anything you want is just not true.
The analysis tools available today are the best that teams have ever had.. Attacking the stats is a weak argument. So do you really believe that the sabermetrics departments of all 30 MLB teams are just wrong, and you are right? Do also believe they are all manipulating stats to justify a trendy narrative? Since the beginning of last season, only 5 of the top 10 fewest strike out teams are also in the top 10 of runs scored.
However 8 of the top 10 slg percentage teams are in the top 10 of runs scored and 9 of the top 11 highest ISO teams are in the top 10 of runs scored. Sabermetrics has convinced people that putting the ball in play is just dependent on luck.
That is not true. Getting soft contact is something good pitchers have done for generations. That is why you have a defense. Not to mention that it makes the game far more entertaining to watch as a fan. I want to see balls in play. I want to see bloop singles falling in. Upon the conclusion of each road trip, players on the Taxi Squad will return to their club's Alternate Training Site. Any clubs that experience a COVID outbreak among their players may add to their Major League Active List temporarily, without the need for those players to be placed on waivers, outrighted, or optioned in order to be removed from the man roster when players return from the COVID Related Injured List.
The universal designated hitter did not return for after debuting last year. Prior to the season, a rule was enacted to limit the number of pitchers a club can carry to 13, but the rule was not put into effect last year and continues to be on hold for The aforementioned two-player rule, whereby all players qualify as a hitter, a pitcher, or a two-way player, was placed on hold for As a result, there are no rules limiting when a position player may pitch in Rules for season Clubs are permitted to carry up to five additional Taxi Squad players on all road trips with the Major League team.
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